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Old 11-29-2006, 11:37 PM   #11
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Default Re: 79 transam 455olds lots of bling and custom paint /94 firebird project

Good luck with the swap either way. But if it was me I'd save up for a LS just because of optispark. lately a lot of kids with LT's are asking me how to fix their ignition systems cause I own the quickest street F-bod in town.
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Old 11-30-2006, 12:45 PM   #12
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Good luck with the swap either way. But if it was me I'd save up for a LS just because of optispark. lately a lot of kids with LT's are asking me how to fix their ignition systems cause I own the quickest street F-bod in town.
Tell them to get a friend with a screwdriver and start probing the spark plug wires, make sure it's a metal handle screwdriver to test and see cylinders are firing. Just so they shock the shit out of themselves. Or does the optispark quit working entirely?
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Old 11-30-2006, 04:13 PM   #13
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I hope you're getting a new Rear end as well.

Remember, our cars were made to have V6's, not just the engine bay is different, they were made to have less power so things are more prone to breaking than the higher V8 F-Bodies.

A full Carbed one may be cheaper, but If you want the "purdy" curve on that dyno, I'd go fuel injection. All depends realy, do you want this to be quick, or FAST
You dont need to replace the rear right away. Plus do you think a 10bolt is any stronger? You can blow them up with a stock motor and drag radials. Reguardless if you start with a V6 or a V8, you will need to replace the rear if you plan on racing it ever.


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I wont give a lengthy response to this, ill just say the basis of what I mean.

A motor swap into a new, near stock car, is dumb. End of story. Just sell it, and buy one with it in it already. Less work, less time, and near the same money, not to mention you have a car that normal people can tell you about and help you with.
Do you even know what you are talking about? New car? its a mid 90's fbody, thats far from new. What does being stock or not have to do with anything? You would have probably also been one of the people saying its a dumb idea to convert a automatic car into a 6spd and that i should have just bought a 6spd car. Yet one weekend and my car was swapped and you couldnt tell it was ever an auto. I also have no clue what you are talking about with having a normal car people can tell you about and help with. There are enough people around that have swapped V8s into V6 fbodies and that just have more then enough general knowledge of fbodies to be able to do it with no problem.

The only way this would be a bad idea was if he was forking over all this money to have someone else do all the work. The fact he is going to be doing most if not all of it means his only costs are going to be the parts. Plus it would be a great experience for him to learn about his car inside and out. That alone would make it worth it.
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Old 11-30-2006, 05:08 PM   #14
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thank you and well said jeeves
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Old 12-01-2006, 12:48 AM   #15
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I hope you're getting a new Rear end as well.

Remember, our cars were made to have V6's, not just the engine bay is different, they were made to have less power so things are more prone to breaking than the higher V8 F-Bodies.

A full Carbed one may be cheaper, but If you want the "purdy" curve on that dyno, I'd go fuel injection. All depends realy, do you want this to be quick, or FAST
You dont need to replace the rear right away. Plus do you think a 10bolt is any stronger? You can blow them up with a stock motor and drag radials. Reguardless if you start with a V6 or a V8, you will need to replace the rear if you plan on racing it ever.


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I wont give a lengthy response to this, ill just say the basis of what I mean.

A motor swap into a new, near stock car, is dumb. End of story. Just sell it, and buy one with it in it already. Less work, less time, and near the same money, not to mention you have a car that normal people can tell you about and help you with.
Do you even know what you are talking about? New car? its a mid 90's fbody, thats far from new. What does being stock or not have to do with anything? You would have probably also been one of the people saying its a dumb idea to convert a automatic car into a 6spd and that i should have just bought a 6spd car. Yet one weekend and my car was swapped and you couldnt tell it was ever an auto. I also have no clue what you are talking about with having a normal car people can tell you about and help with. There are enough people around that have swapped V8s into V6 fbodies and that just have more then enough general knowledge of fbodies to be able to do it with no problem.

The only way this would be a bad idea was if he was forking over all this money to have someone else do all the work. The fact he is going to be doing most if not all of it means his only costs are going to be the parts. Plus it would be a great experience for him to learn about his car inside and out. That alone would make it worth it.
Listen. What I am talking about is simply this. Spending 3k (give or take) on an LT1 with harness, rear end, and tranny, that you dont know how its going to serve (what kind of condition its in) when you put it in. Not to mention the fabrication required, and parts you are probally going to have to replace due to old age or whatever reason.

I do this shit for a living, i've done 100% of the work to my own car, and i've done more research into swapping a v8 into my 3.8 than you can even imagine, so to question if I even "know what im talking about" *rolls eyes*

And about not replacing the rear end "right away" from a v6 to a v8? Do YOU know what your talking about? The second you put your foot hard into it its gonna rip it apart.

Dont come onto some online forum spouting off bullshit responses. I tell it to people how it is, and my honest oppinion if its worth the time, money, and effort, because chances are, I've looked into the exact same thing.
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Old 12-01-2006, 01:47 AM   #16
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Default Re: 94 3.4L to LT-1 Swap Debate

Alright guys, lets keep it civil

I see it this way:
Its obviously possible (many people have done it) however, it seems to me like the easier way would to be to purchase a LT-1 F-Body to begin with. Of course some people would rather do it another way, I don't have all the tools needed to do it myself in my garage without paying someone for some things.
Both of you bring up good points, but I personally would rather not have to worry about all that extra cash and buy a V8 already equipped. In speedped79s case, if he wants to do it, either to just have fun doing it or learn, then more power to him. Just not the route I would personally take.

As for the Rear-Ends, yes if you plan on track racing you're gonna have to switch anyways, but the 10-bolt is definitely an improvement.
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Old 12-01-2006, 08:10 AM   #17
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heres a pic of the car im talking about
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Listen. What I am talking about is simply this. Spending 3k (give or take) on an LT1 with harness, rear end, and tranny, that you dont know how its going to serve (what kind of condition its in) when you put it in. Not to mention the fabrication required, and parts you are probally going to have to replace due to old age or whatever reason.

I do this shit for a living, i've done 100% of the work to my own car, and i've done more research into swapping a v8 into my 3.8 than you can even imagine, so to question if I even "know what im talking about" *rolls eyes*

And about not replacing the rear end "right away" from a v6 to a v8? Do YOU know what your talking about? The second you put your foot hard into it its gonna rip it apart.

Dont come onto some online forum spouting off bullshit responses. I tell it to people how it is, and my honest oppinion if its worth the time, money, and effort, because chances are, I've looked into the exact same thing.
Oh im sorry, i didnt know i was talking to the God of fbodies here. Just because its too much for you to handle doesnt mean its the same for someone else. Wow its your OPINION that it would be better to just buy another car. Stop trying to pass it off like its a fact.
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Listen. What I am talking about is simply this. Spending 3k (give or take) on an LT1 with harness, rear end, and tranny, that you dont know how its going to serve (what kind of condition its in) when you put it in. Not to mention the fabrication required, and parts you are probally going to have to replace due to old age or whatever reason.

I do this shit for a living, i've done 100% of the work to my own car, and i've done more research into swapping a v8 into my 3.8 than you can even imagine, so to question if I even "know what im talking about" *rolls eyes*

And about not replacing the rear end "right away" from a v6 to a v8? Do YOU know what your talking about? The second you put your foot hard into it its gonna rip it apart.

Dont come onto some online forum spouting off bullshit responses. I tell it to people how it is, and my honest oppinion if its worth the time, money, and effort, because chances are, I've looked into the exact same thing.
Oh im sorry, i didnt know i was talking to the God of fbodies here. Just because its too much for you to handle doesnt mean its the same for someone else. Wow its your OPINION that it would be better to just buy another car. Stop trying to pass it off like its a fact.


I talk on these forums about my EXPERIENCE. And what would be best to do with their money, never did I say it was not possible, I only said it is typically not the best route. Time vs value, chances are you going to have the same money in a new car. I never tried to pass it off as fact. But I definately do not take well to someone getting on here and trying to bash me about something.

I'm unlocking this thread, please guys, discuss the +'s and -'s all you want, but don't make it personal.
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Old 12-01-2006, 04:46 PM   #20
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dude dont worry bot it leave it a 6 fer now, plus u aint gunna do it anyways and u gotta make up your mind to is it a card lt1 or ls1 no offense, your my best friend and all but dude just leave yo car a 6 like i am fer a while, and just by a v8 like i probly will when i get the money i thinkn it will be alot cheaper my opinion
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