94 3.4L to LT-1 Swap Debate - Page 3 - F-Body Online

speedped79 · 12-01-2006, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ripdanny6262

dude dont worry bot it leave it a 6 fer now, plus u aint gunna do it anyways and u gotta make up your mind to is it a card lt1 or ls1 no offense, your my best friend and all but dude just leave yo car a 6 like i am fer a while, and just by a v8 like i probly will when i get the money i thinkn it will be alot cheaper my opinion

the difference is i have a cousin with a shop and you dont so im able to do the swap while u really cant but anyway i am leaving it a 6 for now but its not long before it blows

Rocket 442 · 12-01-2006, 10:20 PM

I have a 3.4L, and I know how it feels to have the V8's rumble past you. It makes me want a LT-1 or LS-1 everytime I see everyone elses car, but I just have to remember why I have mine.

I think I'll have a LS-1 here soon enough.

jester77 · 12-01-2006, 11:03 PM

msd has a new hot opti replacement that works real well. and its realy not that had to swap ,your better off.

joelster · 12-02-2006, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Phate

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Originally Posted by jeeves744

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Originally Posted by Rocket 442

I hope you're getting a new Rear end as well.

Remember, our cars were made to have V6's, not just the engine bay is different, they were made to have less power so things are more prone to breaking than the higher V8 F-Bodies.

A full Carbed one may be cheaper, but If you want the "purdy" curve on that dyno, I'd go fuel injection. All depends realy, do you want this to be quick, or FAST

You dont need to replace the rear right away. Plus do you think a 10bolt is any stronger? You can blow them up with a stock motor and drag radials. Reguardless if you start with a V6 or a V8, you will need to replace the rear if you plan on racing it ever.

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Originally Posted by Phate

I wont give a lengthy response to this, ill just say the basis of what I mean.

A motor swap into a new, near stock car, is dumb. End of story. Just sell it, and buy one with it in it already. Less work, less time, and near the same money, not to mention you have a car that normal people can tell you about and help you with.

Do you even know what you are talking about? New car? its a mid 90's fbody, thats far from new. What does being stock or not have to do with anything? You would have probably also been one of the people saying its a dumb idea to convert a automatic car into a 6spd and that i should have just bought a 6spd car. Yet one weekend and my car was swapped and you couldnt tell it was ever an auto. I also have no clue what you are talking about with having a normal car people can tell you about and help with. There are enough people around that have swapped V8s into V6 fbodies and that just have more then enough general knowledge of fbodies to be able to do it with no problem.

The only way this would be a bad idea was if he was forking over all this money to have someone else do all the work. The fact he is going to be doing most if not all of it means his only costs are going to be the parts. Plus it would be a great experience for him to learn about his car inside and out. That alone would make it worth it.

Listen. What I am talking about is simply this. Spending 3k (give or take) on an LT1 with harness, rear end, and tranny, that you dont know how its going to serve (what kind of condition its in) when you put it in. Not to mention the fabrication required, and parts you are probally going to have to replace due to old age or whatever reason.

I do this shit for a living, i've done 100% of the work to my own car, and i've done more research into swapping a v8 into my 3.8 than you can even imagine, so to question if I even "know what im talking about" *rolls eyes*

And about not replacing the rear end "right away" from a v6 to a v8? Do YOU know what your talking about? The second you put your foot hard into it its gonna rip it apart.

Dont come onto some online forum spouting off bullshit responses. I tell it to people how it is, and my honest oppinion if its worth the time, money, and effort, because chances are, I've looked into the exact same thing.

Here we go......... Bullshit responses? Please.......jeeves knows what he's talking about, he's just a tad harsh sometimes, you'll get used to it. I know of a few people in this area that could do the V-6 to V-8 swap in a day, EASY. The cars AREN'T THAT DIFFERENT. If you have wiring harness, motor/tranny exhaust, accessories, etc..basically a donor front half, you're set. If you just have an LT1 motor with nothing else, then the bill will be a LOT higher. As far as the rear end goes, some get lucky and some don't. Pat's V-6 to V-8 swapped car's rear handled it well, even after putting some bolt-ons on the LT1.

speedped79 · 12-02-2006, 03:47 PM

were fine no one is bashing or anything he was just stating that he was sick of nonsense posts and then made a great point

Phate · 12-02-2006, 05:32 PM

Discussions should be just that, discussions. Not arguements. I appologise if I propetuated the arguement at all. So, Jeeves, truce?

Im not on here to make enemies, we're all in this for a hobby, and should just be shooting the shit and having fun. Lets act like it. So lets all think about what we say and how it could be taken offensively to others before we say them.

As per this topic, I believe all sides have been heard, and its up to him on what he chooses to do. Am I right?

speedped79 · 12-02-2006, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Phate

Discussions should be just that, discussions. Not arguements. I appologise if I propetuated the arguement at all. So, Jeeves, truce?

Im not on here to make enemies, we're all in this for a hobby, and should just be shooting the shit and having fun. Lets act like it. So lets all think about what we say and how it could be taken offensively to others before we say them.

As per this topic, I believe all sides have been heard, and its up to him on what he chooses to do. Am I right?

yes you are right. and no one comes on forums to argue just discuss info and ideas and ask for help so lets all keep it friendly and have a open debate

BaD AZz Z/28 · 01-30-2007, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Phate

No offense to your friend at all. But I have a v6. I've done more research than you can imagine, and talked to everyone thats done it. If someone said it was 'easy' either they are very very skilled or very very lucky.

90% of the time its going to be done half-assed. If you swap a Lt1 in with tranny, your still going to have to replace the rear end.... pretty much everything on the car that makes it a car and not a rolling shell. Labor vs price is just not worth it. Save the time, hassle, and problems and just buy a v8.[/

We must be very very skilled

Pat's car was a V6 to LT1, Pauls blue car was a V6 T5 to a V8 TH400, and Pauls red car had no engine, trans, or harness, so it got a custom big block setup instead

Its easy in terms of wrenching ability, although I could see it being hard on patience or money if you arent good at doing it. The V6 engine and trans drops out in a few hours, the LT1 engine/trans lifts back in with no hassle. The 10 bolt in the V6 is no different than that of a V8 car other than posi, which usually breaks as soon as you look at it wrong anyway. Having a donor car is obviously the best way to make a swap happen, but its not that much of a hassle to swap fuel pumps and do alittle wiring as long as you have gone this far. If you have done it before or are doing it yourself as a learning experience, it can be more than worth it. If you have a beat up V6 and have to pay someone to do everything, then you may want to save your cash and get a V8 car.

12-01-2006, 10:20 PM	#22
Rocket 442 Site Owner Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 2,473 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: 94 3.4L to LT-1 Swap Debate I have a 3.4L, and I know how it feels to have the V8's rumble past you. It makes me want a LT-1 or LS-1 everytime I see everyone elses car, but I just have to remember why I have mine. I think I'll have a LS-1 here soon enough. __________________ Andy ▌1966 Oldsmobile Cutlass F-85 Deluxe 455cid F2 Block \| Edelbrock Performer RPM Heads & ARP Bolt Kit \| Mondello JM 22-25-10 Cam - 274/280 .512/.523 \| Harland Sharp 1.6 Ratio Full Roller Rockers \| Edelbrock Modified Performer Intake ▌1995 Chevy Camaro - Slow My Cars are USDM, it's like JDM in Japan; Crazy Eh? Got a Myspace? Friend our F-Body Online Account

12-01-2006, 11:03 PM	#23
jester77 Member Location: niagara falls , ny Posts: 243 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: 94 3.4L to LT-1 Swap Debate msd has a new hot opti replacement that works real well. and its realy not that had to swap ,your better off. __________________ -94 Formula 383stroker,ps longtubes,tf heads,9inch w/ locker < lsx swap in '09 -94 Firebird for sale!!! or parts -96 Blazer < lt1 transplant in '09

12-02-2006, 03:47 PM	#25
speedped79 Member Posts: 151 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: 94 3.4L to LT-1 Swap Debate were fine no one is bashing or anything he was just stating that he was sick of nonsense posts and then made a great point __________________ the re-up wny

12-02-2006, 05:32 PM	#26
Phate FBO Staff Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,470 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: 94 3.4L to LT-1 Swap Debate Discussions should be just that, discussions. Not arguements. I appologise if I propetuated the arguement at all. So, Jeeves, truce? Im not on here to make enemies, we're all in this for a hobby, and should just be shooting the shit and having fun. Lets act like it. So lets all think about what we say and how it could be taken offensively to others before we say them. As per this topic, I believe all sides have been heard, and its up to him on what he chooses to do. Am I right? __________________

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