Rumor: the 6th Gen Camaro and CTS to join ATS on RWD Alpha platform

[fbodyrs96]

The current 5th generation Camaro is on GM’s ZETA platform, but if Motor Trend’s report is to come true, the next generation Camaro (expected in 2014/2015 according to MT) will join the upcoming Cadillac ATS on GM’s RWD platform dubbed “ALPHA”. Another bit of information from the article is that the next generation Camaro is expected to be lighter, and the SS will potentially be powered by a supercharged or turbocharged DI 3.6L V6.
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[SnIpEr]

W.t.f. my heart honestly seemed to skip a beat when I saw the words 6th gen. Any concepts out for it yet? I'll be pissed if they update the second gen. I really really want an updated 4th gen

[AwsmGy]

I like everything except for the lack of V8.

[SnIpEr]

Originally Posted by AwsmGy I like everything except for the lack of V8.

Agreed on the v8 part. I also need to see a concept and see what they have planned. Don't piss me off GM...

[kthxbai]

seems to me that were getting a bit ahead of ourselves. for now i will continue to bask in the glory of the fifth gen V8, and the return of the Camaro. At least they cant screw it up for a few years.

[Baldilocks01SS]

I still prefer the 4th Generation over the 5th. Hopefully if they DO make a 6th Generation, it will be a much better design and not so "retro"...

[Arctic Bird]

i agree with the need for a v8 version, camaros have always had some kind of v8. and we all know the mustang is bringing back the 5.0. even a turbboed v6 doesnt seem like it would be able to compare to what the new 5.0 is supposed to put out. to me it sounds like the camaro might just end up a rwd version of the gtr

[Rocket 442]

Originally Posted by Black Bird i agree with the need for a v8 version, camaros have always had some kind of v8. and we all know the mustang is bringing back the 5.0. even a turbboed v6 doesnt seem like it would be able to compare to what the new 5.0 is supposed to put out. to me it sounds like the camaro might just end up a rwd version of the gtr

The GTR is a 80,000 dollar car. The camaro will not end up anything like the GTR.

I'm glad they're at least already looking into the next step for the Camaro. I can't say I'm loving the V6 idea, but who knows. I could enjoy a car if it's got 2 less cylinders, it just better act as if its got those extra 2.

Only thing I see is that worries me is what they'll do with the LS series engines. Will the Corvette continue on with them, or will they just start all their cars with new DI setups.

[Rocket 442]

I added a Poll here, Vote up and let us know what you think
6th Generation Camaro to the Alpha Platform?

[kthxbai]

thats a great point Andy, the future of LSX motors is something to be concerned about. I think my support of the move to Alpha would probably hinge on that.

[Pafirefighter20]

Hello McFly!!!!
Anyone Home McFly????
YOU CAN NOT, I REPEAT, CAN NOT PUT A V-6, INTO A CAMARO SS!!!!
The next thing you know, They will wanna make a 4 door Corvette, and the will just trigger the END OF THE WORLD people, and we don't want that, now do we??

[WVBird99]

Originally Posted by Pafirefighter20 Hello McFly!!!! Anyone Home McFly???? YOU CAN NOT, I REPEAT, CAN NOT PUT A V-6, INTO A CAMARO SS!!!! The next thing you know, They will wanna make a 4 door Corvette, and the will just trigger the END OF THE WORLD people, and we don't want that, now do we??

Paging DR HOUSE and a CRASH CART!
Taking the V8 out of the Camaro's Picture completely is like pissing off Al Pacino with an Assualt Rifle, not something you want to do, huh, oookay. Its the staple to the symbol, to the lineage. I dont mind a 'super 6' entering the picture and *dont put the 6 cyl down too much*, but make them packages dammnit, do not let the lineage die. Yes its a brave new world, but for the love of god dont forsake history!

This is on a level of saying that a hypothetical 2010 or 2012 Trans Am would be featured with a 3.6l engine......no.....no.....no

[mouthforcombat]

First of all, the 5th gen Camaro, in my opinion, was a very poor attempt at going retro first gen, compared to the Challenger. I'm a GM loyalist, but it's clear as day that the Challenger looks WAAY sexier and more muscle than the Camaro. That said, the 5th gen Camaro has been growing on me and I would consider getting an SS in a couple years. BUT, if they bring out some garbage ass Camaro SS with a v6 under the hood, I will abandon the Camaro, period, and probably outright refuse to consider GM in the new vehicle market.

Vehicles are heading into a crappy direction, period, because of emissions (again) and the ever-looming doomsday threat of running out of fuel. There is no doubt that oil is a limited resource and we need to find an alternative... But jesus christ, they've been teaching kids that we've got "20 years left of fuel" since the god damn early sixties. Make muscle cars the right way, or don't make them at all.

[Rocket 442]

Originally Posted by mouthforcombat First of all, the 5th gen Camaro, in my opinion, was a very poor attempt at going retro first gen, compared to the Challenger. I'm a GM loyalist, but it's clear as day that the Challenger looks WAAY sexier and more muscle than the Camaro. That said, the 5th gen Camaro has been growing on me and I would consider getting an SS in a couple years. BUT, if they bring out some garbage ass Camaro SS with a v6 under the hood, I will abandon the Camaro, period, and probably outright refuse to consider GM in the new vehicle market.

Problem is, the Challenger has been a giant flop. I also can guarantee you its not as "muscle" as the camaro. Sure it may look more retro than the camaro, but its an even more overweight turd than the camaro is.

With the new taxes (aka penalties) coming from EPA fuel ratings I can definitely see why GM is toying with the idea of a V6. People will start complaining in a few years when the camaro has 5,000 added to its sticker from the 5th generation, because GM will need to do that to offset their penalties for their "gas-guzzler".

[mouthforcombat]

Agreed that the Camaro performs better than the Challenger, but the Challenger looks better, hands down. Furthermore, one of the biggest reasons the Challenger has been a flop is because the Charger was just brought back a few years ago. There is not a big enough demographic per brand for two modern muscle cars.

You have a point with the fuel "penalties". I would rather see no Camaro than a v6 Camaro, though.

[SnIpEr]

Originally Posted by mouthforcombat Agreed that the Camaro performs better than the Challenger, but the Challenger looks better, hands down. Furthermore, one of the biggest reasons the Challenger has been a flop is because the Charger was just brought back a few years ago. There is not a big enough demographic per brand for two modern muscle cars. You have a point with the fuel "penalties". I would rather see no Camaro than a v6 Camaro, though.

HELL NO.

Camaro > Challenger





I agree though, I'd rather see no camaro than a stupid v6 Camaro...

[Baldilocks01SS]

The Camaro definitely looks better than the Challenger. Just because the retro look worked for Mustang doesn't mean that Chevy should have went that way with the Camaro....

[R6Biker]

Ok, I'm going to have to be in the minority and say that the idea of the Forced Induction V6 would be pretty cool, and make some crazy power for the 6 cylinder engine class. I'm def. all for the V8, but unless the manufacturers can meet the increasingly strict emissions laws that will probably inevitably wipe out the larger engines for factory options as they predict, they're going to have to turn to the V6 engines or even diesel engines. Look at the Buick 3800's in the Grand National, nasty little V6 and that was years ago. I'd hate to see the LS engines fade away but you never know what GM is going to do. I just keep dreaming for an AWD Camaro.

[whitdog54]

challenger looks more retro then the camaro IMO, but they used the dodge charger platform for it, and they kinda rushed to get it on the market and blew it. They need to start with a whole new platform to make the challenger hang with the mustang and camaro.

I wouldnt mind if the SS was a v6, as long as the z28 is a v8....the z28 used to be the top model, they should make it that way again.

[Superman]

Originally Posted by Baldilocks01SS The Camaro definitely looks better than the Challenger.

Compared to what?
If we're comparing which looks better overall, I vote Challenger.
If we're comparing which looks most like the "retro" version, I vote Challenger.


The Challenger is just a sexy looking vehicle. Too bad so many people hate on it though.